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Vast Aire's Latest Anti-Def Jux El-P Cage Myspace Rant
Since flame rants are often made on myspace and deleted soon afterwards… here'due south Vast Aire's latest Emmet-Def Jux myspace rant in full (for posterity). P.s. I guess since yous're about to read a rant trashing Def Jux, I tin at least throw this in there: Preview/Pre-order DJX Presents Vol. 4 here . Here's the tracklisting:
1. Weathermen (Feat. Aesop Rock, El-P And Cage) "Reports Of A Possible Kidnapping" ii. Camu Tao "When Yous're Going Down" three. Despot "Look Alive" 4. Cage "Worm In Her Vein" 5. Yak Ballz "Gas Galaxy" vi. Mr. Lif "Digi Data" feat. Miz Metro 7. Hail Mary Mallon (Aesop Rock, Rob Sonic, DJ Big Wiz) "D-Up" 8. Fundamental Services "Nosotros Do The Work, Yous Do The Pleasance" 9. Rob Sonic "Domestic Animals" 10. Yak Ballz "Halogen Glow" xi. Chin Mentum "Live Or Die" 12. El-P "How To Serve Man (The Meanest Things I'd Never Say
For the tape, I agree with nothing Vast Aire is saying. DEF JUX are stand up guys as far as I am concerned. There are people that give you douche chills and there are people that give you a warm feeling when you see them and talk to them. The jukies requite me the latter (nullus brokeback). So, fuck what Vast has to say, but at the same time, I am posting this considering even though I don't agree, it is interesting to read. I am also posting this, so people would end hitting me upwardly asking me if I had seen it all the same.
AND ON TO VAST AIRE'S FLAME RANT:
Information technology'S Like THAT, AND THAT'Southward THE WAY IT IS
First, PEACE LOVE AND RESPECT TO CAMU TAO {R.I.P.}
i would like to say i never started any beef, simply i volition put an end to it
im going to answer some questions from the fans then a basic understanding can exist reached.
WHY DID Yous LEAVE DEF JUX? AND WHEN?
I left def jux in late 2002 / 2003, i started working on my lp "Look Mom No Easily"
at this time, me and camu {SA Boom} were living together in BKNY. camu was working on "Smashy Trashy" his only lp on Def jux. at the time, Def jux was trying to expand their amount of artist, and they started giving out "recording advances". at the time Cold VEIN had sold over 100,000 cd's and a maxi single of the F-word sold about 30,000 at the time {140,000 records sold}.
can ox at the time didnt have a "deal", we recorded everything as friends, but nosotros blew up over nighttime, and def jux didnt know how to handle information technology, so yous tin imagine that tin ox was mad! {CAN OX WAS Only MAKING Coin FROM SHOWS}
we built this characterization with you {el-p} but your giving money to outsiders first????
DEF JUX SHOULD Accept PAID CAN OX AND RJD2 BEFORE You PAID MURS AND 9TH WONDER, C-RAYZ AND ETC? {PEACE TO THEM, IM Only MAKING A POINT}
at this time, dj Mr Len told me that El-p's biz-partner {DEF JUX / OZONE} Ameechi stole $5000 from co-flow, and this is why MR LEN didnt hang around or do cuts for def jux any more!!!!
and then, its 3 years after my great lp {cold vein} blows up, only el-p and ameechi dont take any money for me and vordul??????? but more than 5 groups are getting advances????
AND MR LEN SAID $5000 WAS GONE! DUE TO AMEECHI!???
THAT STARTED A HUGE BEEF! me and el-p had some Exact fights, and i moved to carmine hook brooklyn. this is when me camu and metro had a crib, they moved from ohio to do their lp for def jux,
CAN OX GOT A LAWYER AND THEIR MONEY…only the vibe was different, its like when your girl friend catches you lot adulterous, its never the aforementioned later on that! we should accept never had to chase our own money!!!! we could record as friends, but when it was time to pay me i was told to get a lawyer?????
then nosotros {can ox} wanted to move forrard, just when it wasnt the biz issues, we had creative bug and lack of control.
El-p is a control freak, if he cant produced every song, he starts to throw fits! at this fourth dimension {2003} im getting crazy ill beats from Mf doom, Madlib, Ayatollah Camu tao etc.
i wasnt thinking about el-p, his sound was dope, merely its was limited. information technology was the same type of style, i wanted something new, and i wanted control! hence the proper name LOOK MOM NO Easily! all that meant was "liberty" at def jux in those days, el-p was censoring a line or 2 out of dudes rhymes. i watched him do it to camu tao and vordul mega!
el-p told camu tao he could non "slap a girl" in his rap song, and he told vordul "you put to many 'nigga'due south' in your raps"
the last affair i needed was some emo white kid telling me how many 'niggas' i can take in my rap songs! and one of my favorite hip hop songs is "tiptop billing" and in that song milk says very conspicuously "if your girl is out of line…its your girl i slap" and as far equally black people using the word 'nigga' Q-tip already bankrupt that down! so ME CAMU AND VORDUl hated that twenty-four hour period! this is why i left def jux bad biz and lack of creative control!
WHAT WENT DOWN WITH Tin can OX'S 2ND RECORD?
To be existent, we started that projection, but vordul dropped the ball on that, vordul became very distant and was drunkard and coked up all the fourth dimension, he became this way after his jaw was broken in a bar fight that was ment for el-p. long story short, that helped wake upwards vorduls "dark side" and nosotros only did like 5 songs. El-p got mad at me as if i should have been vordul's baby sitter! vordul is a grown human, he made his choices, dont get mad at me! then and so we had our final autumn out and the last thing nosotros recorded was Mr Lif'due south songs "Brothaz rmx wit tin can ox" me and vordul are cool, and we withal are recording! thats my family! he's on my new lp "OX 2010"
WHY DID Yous Go out WEATHERMEN Crew?
AT THIS TIME….I WASNT ON DEF JUX BUT I WAS Even so A WEATHERMAN MEMBER!
I did a Tour with SSS {TAME ONE AND D-DONS in late 2006} with my homie quaternary p, information technology was called the teen wolf tour, it was fun and cool, but then information technology turned for the worst!
cage claims i took coin from yak ballz and tame ane????
according to whom since cage wasnt on the tour??????
the tour was prepare for me to get an average of about $850 a night {i was told i was going to get $1000 to head line, merely i left it alone because im wit my peoples, SO I Thought}
1 of the shows was non part of the tour, information technology was a bear witness i already had as a solo artist, but i added it to the bout {teen wolf tour} long story short, I should have gotten $900 dollars that night, but yak ballz felt i should take $750. now….i sympathize yak ballz was paying for extra gas {and i was too} and i understand that yak was feeding Tame one {and and then was i} but he had no right to to try and become more money from a testify that was never his? he got the same money he got every nighttime, that $150 or $75 bucks had nothing to do with him? AND ITS IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO STEAL MY Own MONEY!
so if that makes me a crook, then im muthafuckin robin hood!
i dont have anything to hide! i gave yak the $150 THE NEXT Twenty-four hours! we had iv more shows and i wanted to dead the beef, merely i made information technology articulate it was my coin to begin with!
likewise on that same tour nosotros had dinner at a mexican spot, and we all are talking about projects etc. i told every 1 at the table {yak included} that i didnt like aesop'southward new lp at the time {bazooka molar} I Honey AESOP! simply i didnt like that record, all i said was "you lot deceit hear his words anymore" and yak turned that into me existence a hater!!!!
meanwhile all these bitch emo kids do is talk shit virtually yous in emails, blogs and or ii-ways!
Tame showed me a 2-way convo with cage trying to get votes to kicking me out of weathermen! THATS RIGHT TAME SHOWED ME A 2-Style EMAIL WIT CAGE TRYING TO VOTE ME OUT! SO BEFORE THE Election WAS Washed, I LEFT THE NEW LEFT. Considering I KNEW THEY WERE ALL FAKES.
AT THE END OF THE Twenty-four hours IF CAMU HATED ME, WHY IS HIS RIGHT HAND MAN {METRO} CLOSE FRIENDS WITH ME AND IS ON MY NEW LP? WHY AM I All the same COOL WITH ALL OF CAMU'Due south OHIO PEOPLES Like BIG JT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
METRO IS PROOF THAT ME AND CAMU WERE Proficient, HOW ELSE DID I GET MY BEATS FOR MIGHTY JOSEPH {Blood SPORT PROD BY CAMU!}
THE Merely LIARS AND CROOKS Hither ARE THESE EMO BITCHES!
similar i said earlier if they are angels that never did nada incorrect
WHERE IS
Space?
Large JUS?
MR LEN?
J-TREDS?
BREEZLY BREWIN?
C-RAYZ?
MASAI BEY?
MURS?
RJD2?
CAN OX?
MR LIF?
AND B.M.Southward.?
NONE OF THEM WORK WITH DEF JUX ANYMORE…LETS Exist Existent ABOUT THIS!
and wait at cage's history!!!!
he worked with NECRO?
and HIGH AND MIGHTY?
…ONLY TO Plough ON THEM???
HE TURNED ON COPY, MASAI BEY, B.M.Southward. Space AND ME!
JUST Retrieve Near HOW CAMU FELT WHEN EL-P'Southward CENSORSHIP DESTROYED SMASHY TRASHY THE LP! CAMU HATED DEF JUX'S CENSORSHIP, IF HE HATED Anything AT ALL!
WHAT Blazon OF Tape LABEL IS THAT???
AND I Deceit Be DOWN WITH A CREW OF "YES MEN"
IF I DONT LIKE YOUR Shell I DONT LIKE IT, YOU FUCKING EMO Bowwow!
AND EL-P IS A BITCH BECAUSE HE KNOWS CAGE SHITTED ON HIM!!!! But HE KISSES HIS ASS!
Whatsoever Existent FAN CAN Expect AT THE PATTERNS AND FIGURE It OUT!
LAST BUT NOT Least, I Accept A Hole-and-corner UNRELEASED "BLAIR COSBY" SONG OF CAMU TAO DISSING DEF JUX AND EL-P!
Only, DID I RELEASE It, NO!
IM GONNA Allow THEM Keep Earthworks THEIR SHIT HOLE
AND And then IM GOING Printing PLAY AND BRING CAMU BACK TO LIFE DISSING THEM!
IF IM A LIAR, ASK METRO!!!!!!!!!!
PEACE-
OX 2010 COMING Presently!
REAL RAP IS Dorsum!
(via myspace blog)
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